09: “To put love to the test is to see love expressed as justice.” – (ft. Rev. angel Kyodo williams)

“To put love to the test is to see love expressed as justice.” 009 (ft. Rev. angel Kyodo williams)

Join guest Rev. angel Kyodo williams for a provocative conversation about making love and justice. Rev. angel is a Zen priest, an educator, and activist whose teaching helps others scrutinize the extent to which their practice of love and justice is a liberated one. In their self, and in the world.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

  • How to tell if your love is “just”
  • How love and justice are intimately connected
  • Why all of us — even those of us with privilege and power — are harmed by systems of injustice
  • How to meet people where they are, in a conversation about justice
  • Why it’s important to “disarm” your love
  • How to evaluate the “tone” of your proactive of justice.

Welcome to a conversation about making a practice of love and justice.

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Called “the most intriguing African-American Buddhist” by Library Journal, angel Kyodo williams is an author, activist, master trainer and founder of Transformative Change. She has been bridging the worlds of transformation and justice since her critically acclaimed book, Being Black: Zen and the Art of Living With Fearlessness and Grace was hailed as “an act of love” by Pulitzer Prize winner Alice Walker, and “a classic” by Buddhist pioneer Jack Kornfield. Her newest work, Radical Dharma: Talking Race, Love & Liberation, is igniting communities to have the long overdue conversations necessary to become more awake and aware of what hinders liberation of self and society.

Rev. angel was the second black women to become a Zen “Sensei” or teacher, and applies wisdom teachings and embodied practice to intractable social issues.

She is a leading voice for Transformative Social Change, and in recognition of her work, she received the first Creating Enlightened Society Award from Shambhala International.

Her work has been widely covered, including in The New York Times, Boston Globe, Ms., and Essence.

angel notes, “Love and Justice are not two. Without inner change, there can be no outer change. Without collective change, no change matters.” She was made for these times.


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